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I'm in a boring meeting in Charlotte; flying home later this afternoon. Thank goodness the conference room table has an ethernet jack.

A friend online just sent me an instant message that included my new phavorite phrase, "torturously long blow job". I snickered a bit loud, so I'll probably have to shut the laptop and actually participate in the meeting. Harumph.

On a different topic, Firefox is a *really* great new browser.

Get Firefox!

So far, I like it a whole lot -- even more than Safari on OSX. Snappy, snazzy, safe!

JFirefox

Date: 2004-09-17 09:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciddyguy.livejournal.com
I am sooo going to get Firefox and see if my pc will work without rebooting and stuff.

I've heard from many how good Firefox is over IE.

Unfortunately, I can't get totally away from it. Some sites are best used with IE and I have to use IE at work.

Oh well...

Re: JFirefox

Date: 2004-09-17 10:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danlmarmot.livejournal.com
Firefox isn't all that (yet). It still doesn't fully support CSS 1.0, despite claims to the contrary, and doesn't fully support JavaScript (Netscape Navigator 4.7 has better Javascript support, if you can believe it.) Printing from Firefox is spotty, and performance can be slow.

You'll still need IE for a fair number of sites, not because they're optimized for IE, but because IE has more robust rendering and can handle minor page flaws better than Firefox. The true measure of browser quality is does the browser degrade gracefully when rendering poorly formed HTML, and that's where Firefox comes up short.

But many prefer the UI features of Firefox, so see if it's to your taste!

Re: JFirefox

Date: 2004-09-17 10:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciddyguy.livejournal.com
The main reason I've been thinking of Firefox is that I've been having sooo many problems with my computer to the point a total reinstall of the OS (win98) IE 6 etc and even a new updated Yahoo IM and I do not have stability with my PC, it reboots on it's own accord, sometimes suddenly, sometimes freezing up before it finaly reboots. It's been a month of this crap.

I'm leaning towards hardware as it sometimes will do so as Windows loads stuff from the startup menue.

I can't do too many things at once as it increases computer use and that's where it really gets flakey.

Time to have an expert check it out.

Re: JFirefox

Date: 2004-09-17 10:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cpratt.livejournal.com
Changing browsers isn't going to fix an unstable Windows 98 PC.

The only that that's really going to fix that is a new PC.

You can get a very decent, brand spanking new HP computer for about $340 shipped directly to your home. That's probably cheaper than hiring someone to try to figure out how to fix your old PC, and it's probably a hell of a lot faster than whatever you have now.

Re: JFirefox

Date: 2004-09-17 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciddyguy.livejournal.com
If I had $350 bucks to spend I'd do it. However, I built my PC from scratch based on the Asus A7V mother board, 800Mhz Athlon processor and 512M of RAM. A going machine in 2000-2001, and granted, it's dated by today's standards.

I'm thinking perhaps try replacing the MB in this current box and within a few months (by January or so) upgrade the processor.

A friend can "slip" me a working copy of XP and knows how to get it installed despite it's install limitations. :-D.

I can get a pretty good MB for less than $100 if I shop around - even if it means going integrated for AGP and audio.



Re: JFirefox

Date: 2004-09-17 11:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cpratt.livejournal.com
Look, if you honestly want a stable PC, buy a new complete system from a reputable vendor like Dell or HP. Replacing parts in dribs and drabs or building your own from scratch isn't going to help anything - and it'll probably wind up costing about the same amount of money if not more.

I'll spare you the lecture about how stealing is wrong, but you should probably be aware that it's really, really tacky to tell Microsoft employees about how you're going to steal their software. Not cool.

Re: JFirefox

Date: 2004-09-17 11:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciddyguy.livejournal.com
When I built the box originaly, it was pretty stable for the longest time and yes, it does not cost any less to do, but the fun of building it was fun. Normally, I'd just do the board, processor and RAM all at once, problem is, lack of useable credit at the moment keeps me from doing it all at once and the problems I've had have been more to do with stuff getting onto the box in the first place, which may have precipitated this whole problem I'm having now, and a slight bump with my chair (accidentaly) caused the computer to reboot for the first time, and it's been that every since.

I did have to borrow a copy of Win98 to get it going since all I had at the time was Win95 and it would not recognize the bios on the Asus board.

The idea was to upgrade to either Win2k, or XP but did not have the cash for the longest time to purchase. I don't normaly advacate stealing, but I've always been a bit angry at this install limitation thingy that MS has implimented - to the point of forcing users to repurchase rights to the software if a major upgrade is made. That to me is just not smart or good.
All it serves is to piss off the customer, the end users who rely on MS products and please, MS should drop the price of their old OS when a new one comes out. That makes no sense at all.

Excuse me for ranting, but I know I'm not the only one who feels this way.

Re: JFirefox

Date: 2004-09-17 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cpratt.livejournal.com
I'm not clear what XP installation limitation thingy you're referring to.

Are you talking about product activation? Maybe you're misunderstanding something?

Jeez, John, it sounds like you don't even have a valid Windows 98 license, so why are you pissed off? You've been getting a free ride for years by the sound of it...

Re: JFirefox

Date: 2004-09-17 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciddyguy.livejournal.com
I just remember that when they did the beta testing for XP that only 11 installs were allowed before one had to shell out for a renewel of the liscense. And that if you had to replace the MB for instance, it would not let you install without a new registration, that kind of thing. I was never sure if that made it to the final retail versions or not. And lets not forget it was only for the computer you orignaly installed it on, and that was it. I recall reading about that in computer magazines at the time.

I did try to find a second hand copy of 98 through Second Hand Books and they had been hard to find and while I've not looked in the past year. I've been busy and have been doing other things. When I had my old P133 box, it came with Win95, which as you know, won't work on later pc's, so had to borrow, originaly for short term stop gap measures, but financial hardships at the time prevented me from purchasing anything like that for the longest time. Now, I've got a decent job but had to purchase a new printer, a new monitor and am now having to deal with the main box and do intend to things more ligitimaly.

As for the free ride, since 2001 and like I said, was only meant to be stop gap, but life interviened and had to hold off much longer than orignaly planned.



Re: JFirefox

Date: 2004-09-20 09:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cpratt.livejournal.com
The "11 installs" bit doesn't sound remotely accurate... probably another instance of bad PR/marketing devolving into bad info. But yes, XP is typically licensed only for the hardware it ships on, unless you've paid the $$$ for a different copy that allows you to transfer it to new hardware.

Tell you what: E-mail me your shipping address [that would be cpratt at microsoft dot com] and I'll get a copy of XP Home [full version] shipped out to you on my own dime. Deal?

PC Help Desk

Date: 2004-09-20 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e-ticket.livejournal.com
Ummm... maybe you can help me. The cupholder on the front of my PC has broken off -- can you fix it for me?

Re: PC Help Desk

Date: 2004-09-20 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cpratt.livejournal.com
You bet! Just send me $180 for the plane ticket and $20 for spare parts...

Thank you for reading Dave Cobb's journal, where the elite meet to diagnose and solve PC problems... :)

Re: JFirefox

Date: 2004-09-20 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciddyguy.livejournal.com
Deal, Email on it's way.

Re: JFirefox

Date: 2004-09-20 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cpratt.livejournal.com
Package'll be shipped this week.

If you run into me out and about, I demand a Guinness. :)

Re: JFirefox

Date: 2004-09-21 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciddyguy.livejournal.com
You're on. Mmmm, love a Guinness too. :-)



Re: JFirefox

Date: 2004-09-17 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] themonkeybear.livejournal.com
There's this little company called Apple that sells nice computers, check them out. :-)

Re: JFirefox

Date: 2004-09-17 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cpratt.livejournal.com
Let's see... this guy can't afford the $340 for a new PC. What makes you think he'd want to spend $870 on an eMac?

Re: JFirefox

Date: 2004-09-17 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e-ticket.livejournal.com
Girls, girls... you're both pretty.

Take it outside. :)

Re: JFirefox

Date: 2004-09-17 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cpratt.livejournal.com
Hitler!

Re: JFirefox

Date: 2004-09-20 07:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] genxcub.livejournal.com
I don't know if it's because of the enormous amount of "blowing" that M.E. does, but when [livejournal.com profile] cabearcub ran an upgrade to XP from ME, all issues went away. He'll eventually do a clean install, but it's the first time I've done XP as an upgrade, and I really can't tell any difference in performance from a fresh XP install (did it even convert the disk to NTFS?)

Re: JFirefox

Date: 2004-09-18 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sinnabor.livejournal.com
Win98 has a ton of security problems - it could just be that you're being infected with random crap while you're connected to the net. An unpatched windows PC now lasts 16 minutes before infection, on average, when connected to the net without a firewall.

The Windows XP hardware changes limitation is annoying, but it stops unscrupulous system builders from selling the same copy of XP to thousands of people. Most folks never replace their motherboards. Even if you do, you can just call MSFT to get activated, some largish number of times. It got a lot of bad press, but it gets in very few peoples' way.

Re: Firefox

Date: 2004-09-20 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e-ticket.livejournal.com
Can we PLEASE get back to talking about the torturously long blowjobs?

Re: Firefox

Date: 2004-09-20 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cpratt.livejournal.com
Fly me down to LA and we can get back to the tortuously long blowjobs, just before the stupendously hard ass pounding.

Date: 2004-09-17 09:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foodpoisoningsf.livejournal.com
I find most meetings are TLHJ- Torturously Long Hand Job

Hola muchacho...

Date: 2004-09-17 09:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bearchitect.livejournal.com
Davers!! 'ssup dude?! Long time no hear...
have safe flight home

Re: Hola muchacho...

Date: 2004-09-20 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e-ticket.livejournal.com
Hey there handsome! Made it back safe and sound, no Ivan trauma in the air .

Date: 2004-09-17 09:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dizzi-d.livejournal.com
If you can figure out how to import Safari bookmarks and information, let me know. I'd switch to using it if I didn't have to start over with about a hojillion bookmarks :)

Date: 2004-09-17 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cpratt.livejournal.com
Hey, it's not *that* new. I worked on it for three years... it's finally coming together after six plus years in development. Glad to hear folks are finally using it, at any rate - back in 2001, when I left, it was frustrating because not only was it only half baked, no one as using it.

Date: 2004-09-17 11:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poohbearjim.livejournal.com
I've been using it for a little over a week and I've had no problems at all - I downloaded the whole Mozilla suite, and switched my email over there - it's a HELL of a lot more user-friendly than Outlook.

Date: 2004-09-17 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] themonkeybear.livejournal.com
(downloading now) - ONLY cause you said so.

Firefox

Date: 2004-09-20 12:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e-ticket.livejournal.com
Well, as Dizz said, I wish it could import Safari bookmarks. But it seems very snappy. :)

As for the CSS/Java/YaddaYadda that Marmot mentioned, I'm blissfully ignorant of all of that crap. So far, I haven't run across any sites that it couldn't handle -- then again, all I usually surf is LJ and IMDB and Amazon and Bear411. :)

Date: 2004-09-17 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_decibel_/
I downloaded it last night and it's a very nice browser!

that and I can see the animated icons again! w00t!

(i'm so easy to please.)
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